Points To Remember.

Points to Remember.

From Men's Sites:
Ragnar
Posted: Jun 6 2005, 03:06 PM

For now this is only a question;

How can we device some activism project and get men to join in?

It need to be easy to do.

It got be a little fun at least.

It can't involve a lot of money.

Any ideas?

NO COMMENT..

From Men's sites:

"The only way a man is going to end up in a good relationships where he is a happy man, a
comfortable man is when he stops playing the game by "her" rules and starts looking at the
dynamics of relationships from his perspective also. Guys are so "fixed" we squeak.
Happiness, for a man, is not derived from acceptance by a woman alone, but from the serenity
of good relationship in which his needs are also met. We will never have that as men until we
start looking at what it is that will get us there. That starts with getting a clue.

There are lots of falsehoods and double standards out there that need to change. Heck, it was
even claimed that the Internet, the "communication age" was destine to leave men behind
because we were incompetent communicators. Well, seems pretty odd that just the opposite
has occurred. Why is that? The presence of the Internet has been the single biggest benefit to
men in modern society because it changed all that. It gave us the means to speak up.

Its simple guys. This is the first time in the history of man that individual men have actually had
the opportunity to set their own path beyond societal expectations of protector and provider.
With that, every other group seems to believe that they have a sort of right, no, responsibility
to direct us. These double standards are the result: We are still men if we wear make-up, carry
purses, but we are not men if we don't pick up the check or open doors? Think about it. Kinda
funny when you do-yet they say this stuff with a straight face.

Now, We can either stand their with our hands in our pockets, or we can begin to remove all
the cooks hands from our broth and start to drop all the responsibility still heaped upon our
shoulders and start taking advantage of some of the rights and privileges that are out there for
us. We have done more then our fair share. We owe no one.
you should always split it. don't give her the idea that her company costs more than yours.

Our fault is that we make ourselves too available. Men need to start playing hard to get. In our
modern age "doing one's own thing" isn't considered gay like it was when I was growing up.
The shame and stigma attached to self-pleasure has largely faded and I don't need to tell you
to use it. We need to stop asking women out so much and make ourselves attractive enough
to inspire a woman to ask us out more often. We sell our dignity and freedom to placate those
with vaginas who want to get free meals,etc. I really don't think all women are this way, but
many have accepted the social order and enjoy it's benefits. The key to ending this is for men
to stop catering to it.

Well then its settled. You all leave the workforce, go back to the kitchen and we will foot the bill.
I don't know too many men that would have a problem with that.

However, that is not the way it is, and women are not caring for their men in the way you insist
they are. In younger couples it is, as been indicated in a few studies, that the husband is doing
more of the work. Warren Farrell was one of the first to reveal this reality, and the reality is that
when all is said and done, men put in an additional 6 to 8 hours of work

Women may do more housework, but they are not doing more work. Men are doing 30 to 35%
of the housework, and all the "man" work still. However, with dating, you seem to want men to
do all the "work". To compromise equally, by female standards, you should pay for the drinks,
parking, flowers, gas, coffee after.

Look, Women are out their earning an equal, and sometimes greater paycheck then the men
they are dating, so why should the men pay here way? Because of some ego thing? Some
obscure, standard that is as outdated as the stay at home mom? Why does she, by virtue of a
vagina, get a free ride? Would you accept men getting preference on jobs because they are
the ones footing the bill, because they are the men? Of course you would not, so don't partake
in this silliness."