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What men know that women don't by Rich Zubaty
Exclusive Interview with the author Rich Zubaty
DB: You’ve been knocking around out here for a while Rich. It seems you were
years ahead of the curve in your observations on feminism. Indeed, after
spending several years studying the subject online your writings still seem
fresh and insightful. But a lot of people say you hate women.
RZ: I don’t hate tigers, and I don’t hate women. They’re both beautiful to
behold. But if I fail to appreciate they both have fangs and inscrutable natures
I could get clawed.
DB: Many people in the men's movement see feminism as a form of socialism -
left-wing, anti-capitalist ideas. Yet you see feminism and large corporations as
being in a symbiotic relationship.
RZ: In the UK and Europe feminism is socialistic. But it’s different in the USA.
Early on feminism formed an unholy alliance with big corporations. The original
funding sources for U.S. feminism were the Ford and Rockefeller Foundations.
Ford and Rockefeller don’t fund socialists.
But what really really bothers me is that no one, on the left or right, talks
about the unintended consequences of feminism. The unintended consequences of
feminism.
DB: Which are?
RZ:
1) Feminism was the biggest scab labor movement in history. Union
membership in the USA plummeted as millions of women joined the work force. A
guy with a wife and two kids to support lost his job to a woman who had only
herself and payments on a Volkswagen to cover. She could work for less, and she
certainly wasn’t going to jeopardize her new position in the company by joining
a union.
2) The so-called “information economy” was virtually invented for working
women. 40 years into feminism and less than one percent of bricklayers and
asphalt pourers are women. More than 50% of managers are women. We have lost any
reasonable idea of what productive work really is.
DB: How so?
RZ: A woman wakes up in the morning in a house built by men. She drives to work
in a car built by men on roads built by men. She enters an office building built
by men and flips on a light switch connected to an electrical grid built and
maintained by men. She washes her hands in a sink connected to a plumbing system
put there by men. She scratches her chin and looks around. Her eyes settle on a
folding table. Suddenly the janitor appears. She points her finger and says,
“Bob, would you please move that table over there.” Her work day has begun. And
so it goes. She thinks she’s at home. She really believes her job involves
nothing more than telling people what to do all day. Put the socks in the
hamper, walk the dog, don’t forget your gym shoes. That’s it. That’s work. If we
relied on the work accomplished by women we would be living in caves eating cold
seeds. They don’t get it.
And that brings me to my third point about the unintended consequences of
feminism.
DB: What’s that?
RZ: 3) Feminism was, from the beginning, a consumer movement. Their battle cry
was, “I want my own job so I can have my own money so I can buy my own stuff.”
It played right into the corporate agenda. Women want to buy things,
corporations want to sell them things. Women get “high” from shopping. Corporate
stocks get higher the more they can sell them.
And the sheer explosion of corporate fast food chains and automobiles and big
box stores - consumerism run rampant serving these women who “don’t cook” - is a
direct consequence of working women. Remember, “mater” the Latin word for
mother, is the root word of materialism. Women are more materialistic than men.
DB: Hah.
RZ: But it gets worse. In 40 years of feminism real wages have stayed flat, but
the prices of everything from bread to gas to housing have shot up from 300% to
500%. I used to pay 25 cents for a gallon of gas in the 60s and now it costs
over 2 bucks. Working women are a disaster. The work they do is scarcely needed
but now everything costs astronomically more. And, need I add, that the
“information economy” jobs that were supposed to take the place of all the U.S.
manufacturing jobs that were outsourced to Mexico and China, are now themselves
being outsourced to India. Women hopped on the corporate bandwagon without
questioning anything, without it ever occurring to them that workers have to
stick together to prevent being exploited, and now we are sliding off a cliff.
DB: One of your achievements, I believe, is in showing how men can have an
essential role and be proud of themselves outside of the corporate rat-race. In
fact, it seems you share with me the belief that there is something
fundamentally uncivilised about the typical office type job. When a man is
working at, for example, physical work – painting or fishing - or at least
working independently, his thoughts are his own, and he is not under the tyranny
of constantly having to 'express' himself. Would society be more civilised if
our culture expected women to bring in the regular household wage, while the man
pursued more speculative and traditionally masculine types of work?
RZ: Exactly. I wanna stay home! Or go fishing, or fix the roof. Let them work.
Let them do for us what we used to do for them. Go to work and pay the rent and
buy the food while I stay home and paint or write or make videos - and give the
kids cookies and milk when they get off the school bus. And be HAPPY about it
too. Be happy they have a job and CAN pay the rent. The worst thing about
working women is they think the money they earn is “their” money. A man used to
work 10 hours a day at a stink-ass job so he could make the money to pay for his
wife and kids and maybe get a 15 minute blowjob at night. Maybe. Women think the
money they make is all for themselves. Self-absorbed, know-nothing, ruthless
economic strivers. Darwinian capitalists, the worst kind.
DB: You describe yourself as neither a liberal or conservative, but a
'Populist'. Can you explain what a Populist is? A for “the people” kind of
thing?
RZ: That’s the current usage. But actually, we had a Populist movement in
America back in the late 1800s. The socially conservative Midwestern farmers
faced off against the predatory banks and railroads that were stealing their
lands. A Populist is a social conservative and an economic progressive. North
American liberals are social progressives and economic conservatives. The exact
opposite. Liberals think gay marriage and a soaring stock market are both great
things. Populists think intact families and Livings Wages are both great things.
Until the Democratic Party can look men in the eyes and say, “We hear your pain
and we are going to do something about it,” they don’t stand a chance of winning
an election. Democrats have abandoned working men in favor of blandishments
served up to minorities and gays and women. It won’t work. I believe that 80% of
the people in America are Populists - AND DON’T KNOW IT!
DB: How so?
RZ: Most of the people in this country think corporations have too much power.
Too much influence over government. I think that’s obvious. Look how we got
manipulated into the Iraq war so our corporations could grab their oil. And most
of the people in this country think the government should butt out of religious
issues like marriage and divorce and even abortion. Government has no business
messing with those. So most of us are Populists, but we have NO political party
to represent us. I’d love to start a Populist Party and see how much support we
would get.
DB: Why don’t you?
RZ: I’m working on it. I’m doing a presentation on the topic in a bookstore next
month…But the point is, I’m not a religious right winger who despises feminism
on principle. I’m an economic progressive who is furious at how, for 40 years,
elections in the USA have turned on social issues, moral issues - basically the
realm of religion - instead of truly important economic issues. In 2004 we had
an election that SHOULD have been about an insane war, job flight overseas, and
health care. Instead right-wingers got mobilized against gay marriage and
abortion, and tipped the election. It makes me puke. I DON’T CARE about abortion
and gay marriage, those are private moral/religious issues. I care about jobs
and war and health care. I’m not a conservative who opposes feminism for its
perceived socialist agenda. I am a Leftist who is furious with feminism because
for 40 years it has undermined progressive politics in the USA by shrilly
spewing its self-serving propaganda at an unconvinced voting public, who drift
further and further to the right to get away from them. This is the secret of
Republican success. Republicans have nothing definitive to offer American voters
apart from doing the bidding of corporations, and facing off against the
bogeywomen of the cultural Left. What a platform! Without the feminists to
oppose there’s nothing there.
DB: How did you come to write “What Men Know That Women Don’t”?
RZ: I had a really nasty divorce, lost my kids and five houses I built with my
own hands, and everything I had been working on for 15 years. Got crapped on by
the female-friendly court system. And then, about a year later, I asked myself a
simple question: What ARE the differences between men and women. What are they
REALLY? This was a University of Chicago type question.
DB: That’s where you went to school?
RZ: There and the Art Institute of Chicago. At the U of C were taught to ask one
question, and carry that out across several different academic disciplines.
“Interdisciplinary study” it was called. So I asked myself that question - what
are the real differences between men and women - and then studied biology,
psychology, sociology, history, law, mythology, and religion, trying to answer
it. And boy was I surprised.
DB: About what?
RZ: Everything really. I found out that just about everything we think is true
about men and women is completely wrong.
DB: Like what?
RZ: Like intuition. We like to think women are more intuitive than men, but
that’s completely bogus. Men are more intuitive - and creative, and spiritual.
DB: You make some interesting observations about women being linguistic and
materialistic, while men are more non-linguistic, and spiritual. From what I've
read of the latest theories on the cerebral hemispheres one might say that men
are more right brained, while women are more left brained.
Interestingly, the left hemisphere is not only more responsible for language,
but for all kinds of well-defined, structured knowledge, while the right brain
is primed for dealing with novel situations. It is also the hemisphere that
deals with the self in relation to what one might can spirituality.
Interestingly, modern art has been ruined by the postmodern critics who have
talked it, and intellectualized it to death…So, are you in a sense saying that
our society has become too "left-brained"?
RZ: Exactly. I’m glad you pounced on that. What I’m saying is we live in a
matriarchy, NOT a patriarchy. That female values and female left-brained
methodologies rule. Biological studies have shown that women are essentially
left-brained thinkers. And that’s not what we were led to believe. We were told
that women are spontaneous and men are “logical”. But that’s not accurate. It
obscures the fact that women are the more analytical, methodical thinkers.
Women are left-brained creatures. Literal, analytical, sequential,
connect-the-dots type of thinkers. Men are spontaneous, and abstract and
intuitive and creative - and forgiving - and much much less fearful.
DB: Less fearful? That fits…Another aspect of this materialistic society - it
seems to me - is the hoarding behavior we are displaying. It’s all about fear.
We try to fill ourselves with food, fill ourselves with more money, more
objects, cram more qualifications behind us "just in case we need them".
RZ: Right. What I really oppose is the Creeping Femaleness of our entire
civilization. Creeping Femaleness. The “news” formats, the advertisers, the
government programs, the politicians, the school programs are all modelled to
appeal to women. Why? Because women make 80% of buying decisions and their only
perceived job seems to be voicing opinions about things. No matter that those
opinions are not connected to any action. Men will take care of that. At times I
think that women instinctively believe the entire thrust of their lives is to
persuade men to do things for them…Meanwhile, groups of unemployed boys gather
on street corners and form gangs that vilify absolutely everything the
matriarchy offers up. Trying to recreate masculine culture in the midst of this
feminized mess.
DB: And the effete populations of the West become ever more over-qualified, fat,
and consumeristic. It's an emotional reaction against fear that we will not be
prepared for the future; that stops us living in the present. Which is what
Jesus was saying: fear not for the future. Several times in your book you
mention Jesus. What is your view/theory on him and his message?
RZ: Jesus was a good guy. I’m a Gospel Christian. I pray every day. For peace
and guidance. For one year I was a Benedictine monk, right after my divorce. In
fact, that’s when I did the research for the book, when I was living as a monk.
I’m a solid member of the Christian Left. Always have
been. Don’t support war or abortion. Like the Pope. I am NOT a right wing
Christian. They get their cues from the pre-Jesus, fire-and-brimstone Jewish
prophets, or the post-Jesus ravings of the disciples. I think they’re nuts. In
fact, I don’t even think they’re Christians. I think they’re wannabe Jews.
Dangerously delusional. Everything I need to know about Christianity is in the
Gospels - which are basically some conflicting stories about what Jesus is
alleged to have said and did. What Jesus said and did, I presume, is what
Christianity is supposed to be about. The Sermon on the Mount, Mathew 5,6,7 says
it all. And mostly Christianity is about living without fear. And without
hoarding and consumerism and all the fear-bred female impulses that plague us
today. I’ve studied in Buddhist wats in Thailand and Hindu ashrams in India too,
and the essential message is the same. Release your ego and live without fear.
Something men are good at, and women don’t seem to have a clue about. That’s why
I say men are naturally more spiritual than women.
DB: Fear leads to hoarding.
RZ: Right, hoarding and materialism and ultimately war. War is fought for more
material stuff and women are the ones who crave the material stuff.
DB: Are you gonna say what I think you’re gonna say?
RZ: Yes I am. Women are the cause of war. Hoarding and materialism are the
causes of war and women are the main perpetrators of hoarding and materialism.
Mix a teaspoon of fear into that mental soup and it’s time to gas up the Humvees
and arm the cruise missiles. America’s wars are fought to propel corporate
expansion overseas, and what are the corps after? Raw materials to make more
things for women to buy. More gas for their cars, more plastics for their homes,
more clothes, more shoes, more cosmetics. Feminism started out as a noble
attempt to uncouple women from their primary designation as consumers. But -
another unintended consequence - it just gave free rein to their cravings. It
just made everything worse. The insecurities and cravings of women are the root
cause of war. Women don’t like war, but they sure like owning their own cars and
houses and dishwashers. Their professed distaste for war is a mental disconnect.
A laudable opinion divorced from the consequences of their actions. They
actually believe that holding an opinion about something is the same as DOING
something about it. Cultural schizophrenia. Creeping Femaleness.
DB: Everything is backwards.
RZ: That’s what I’m telling you. By simply doing the research that no one else
had bothered to do, I concluded that almost everything we have been taught about
the genders is completely backwards. No wonder we’re so confused. Some guys have
told me that every man alive should read this book. The data I stumbled upon
turns everything we’ve been taught upside down, and thereby comes out making
almost perfect sense. Because, when you think about it, nothing we’ve been
taught about gender relations makes any sense at all. So when you turn it all
upside down there is a pretty good chance something is going to make sense. It’s
probably a mathematical thing I don’t understand.
DB: You’re a Luddite? You hate science?
RZ: Au contraire. I am a big fan of trying to understand particle physics. Do
you realize that if you take one particle and accelerate it to the speed of
light it exists in all times in all places? I can’t think of a better metaphor
for God. But I do think all the current emphasis on science and technology has
rotted our souls. There’s nothing I would rather do than cook a freshly caught
fish on an open fire. It keeps me in touch with the Source of things. Of course,
I am completely addicted to computers.
DB: To what extent do you think that men should relax, and 'go their own way',
or alternatively engage the matriarchy and actively fight it? In other words: is
living well the best revenge, or do we have a responsibility to work to change
society?
RZ: Part of my formula for “living well” is propagating truth. The thing to
remember is that confronting the matriarchy can be lots of fun. Ten years ago I
held “Take Back the Penis” rallies across the USA and Canada. We laughed till
our bellies hurt and got a lot of press for men’s issues. We handed out
cucumbers to giggling women. Japanese tourists took pictures of us. In
Cambridge, Massachusetts a hooker stood alongside us reading our literature
between romps with Harvard students who picked her up in their sports cars. And
in San Francisco the police assigned a special unit to protect us from “them” -
meaning the Lesbian Avengers. Lots of fun. Fathers4Justice have revved up that
Abbie Hoffman-style of circus-protest and they are having a huge impact on
father’s issues in the UK. Sitting at computers commiserating with like-minded
souls cannot compare with the sheer joy of taking this stuff to the streets.
That said, I have to mention an important thing. Instead of supporting the Penis
rallies most Fathers Groups denigrated us for being too radical. What they
refused to accept is that we are facing a Systemic Problem - the feminization of
our entire society. The Fathers think that by tweaking a law or two in Family
Court it’s all going to come out right. It never has. Because there is a huge
female boot print on the court system - and the schools and the media and the
politicians. By trying to play a cutesy political game, by saying, “We don’t
oppose feminism, we just want to see our kids”, they shot themselves in the
foot. It’s only by confronting the entire matriarchal edifice that something can
be shaken loose, and then, I believe, all the derivative issues will right
themselves quite quickly. Private Lyndie England and Condoleeza Rice have done
more for men’s issues than we ever could have achieved ourselves. No, women are
NOT morally superior to men. I get fan mail from female readers who are slogging
through my book when suddenly, inside their heads, the light goes on. All of a
sudden they get the WHOLE thing. They realize they were raised in a society that
taught them to mistrust and demonize men. They are stuck in a rotten marriage.
So they try, just for a few days, to defer to their husband, instead of
constantly bickering with him. They discuss family decisions together, but he
gets the final say. And HE thereby assumes full responsibility for his decision.
If something goes wrong it IS his fault. She’s FREE! Which is just what she
wants. The burden of worrying about everything is removed from her and suddenly,
magically, her marriage becomes delightful. Her husband thrives in the glow of
this newfound respect and he behaves more responsibly than she could ever have
forced him to behave in 20 years of criticism and abuse. It’s a wonderful thing.
Hearing those stories are the big payoff for my work.
DB: Do you think there is any hope for the nuclear family in the West?
RZ: Not until we subvert Creeping Femaleness and return to the simple Biblical
wisdom that, “As Christ is the head of the church so is the husband the head of
the family.” Most women today don’t get it. Even so-called Christians. I
actually tried to get married a few years ago by writing a
genuine “marriage contract”. Not a pie-in-the-sky marriage contract but a REAL
marriage contract. Family court ruled it wasn’t a marriage and civil court ruled
it wasn’t a contract. So much for them. Government has no business messing with
marriage. They’ve made that abundantly clear. Marriage and divorce have ALWAYS
been religious prerogatives. Even King Henry VIII had to start an entirely new
religion in order to get divorced, and he was the KING, he WAS the law. It’s
only very recently that government started messing up gender relations. All
based on the premise that “men are the oppressors of women”. If men are the
oppressors of women then women are vampires. What a First World mind-fuck that
bitter propaganda became. Like a nauseating sound loop, or a zombie that won’t
die. But the good news is: this is the Achilles heel of feminism. When you
confront a feminist with real fact after real fact she will back up and up and
up until she says, “Well everyone knows men are the oppressors of women.” And
when you then say, “That’s not true, men are the protectors and providers for
women and ALWAYS have been”, she will scream. And scream and scream. Their whole
edifice is built on this vile falsity.
Here are the real facts: 19 out of 20 people who die on the job are men, 4 out
of 5 suicides are men, 85% of the homeless are men, women live 7 years longer
than men, women own 65% of America’s wealth. And they want us to believe that
men are the oppressors of women? If women were the victims in any of these
categories we would have a federal task force investigating the outrage. Men are
the protectors and providers for women, and always have been. It’s written into
our biogrammar.
DB: What is your advice for young men today?
RZ: Don’t get married. But if you do, go into it knowing that one day you will
be divorced. Keep money aside. Nurture the best possible relationship with your
kids. Don’t assume they will always be in your life because one day they will be
gone in a poof, and you will still be paying for them. And don’t join the
military, not while GW Bush is president. And you should probably read “What Men
Know That Women Don’t”. I can’t summarize four years of research in this one
interview. It will save you 1000 times the cover cost in averted grief and
relationship disasters. If you’re broke, call your local library and ask them to
order a copy so other guys can read it too.
DB: What have you been up to lately?
RZ: I have a new video coming out on DVD called “Corporate Vampires”. It’s the
history of the corporate colonization of the USA and Europe as told by Uncle
Sam. “They bit me and I became one of them”. A campy/artsy/creepy grave-robbing
expedition in the cemetery where the dead souls of corporate capitalism are
buried. Just like my men’s research, the clues are sitting right there,
sparkling in the moonlight. But our academic gurus walk right past them in
service to their corporate paymasters. It shows things like Abraham Lincoln
warning us that, "As a result of the (Civil) War, corporations have been
enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow…until all wealth
is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed." Exactly what’s
happened. The corporations control everything! Democracy is dead. I’m convinced
the corporate agenda intends to reduce us to servile, feminized men.
Worker/consumers. They’ve certainly succeeded with the women. I’d like to get
the DVD distributed with Netflix, and in Europe, but I would REALLY like to get
some people interested in helping produce a full-on theatrical version. Some old
filmmaking friends in Paris have expressed an interest. Anyone who would like to
contact me about the DVD, or book, or anything else, can email me: richzubaty at
hotmail.com
Also, I’m cooking up a new lecture/presentation called “Why Populism? Why now?”
Maybe we’ll videotape it. It’s pretty simple, I’m just going to tell people that
they’re already Populists and don’t know it. Social conservatives, economic
reformers.
I spent the last two summers in Europe advocating against the Iraq War. Shot a
video of the protests at the Republican Convention in New York last fall. I
basically walked around asking dozens of people if they thought George Bush was
any better of a Christian than they were - and got a resounding “NO!” for an
answer. How can you lie and murder and claim to be a Christian?
DB: Predictions for the future?
RZ: For men it’s going to get worse before it gets better. Until we get some
Fathers4Justice-style civil disobedience protests going on this side of the
Atlantic we will see no change. That said, my book advocates that each man gain
“immunity” from the system. Immunity from the corporate fiefdom and the de facto
matriarchy that supports it. There is no one-size-fits-all solution, but
equipped with an understanding of what men are really like, what our strengths
REALLY are, we can deploy the spiritual tools to gain this immunity. It CAN
work. Remember: a man needs a woman like a fish needs s bicycle. Yeah, the sex
is great. But it’s not worth the price of admission.
Also, when the lies that sped us into war are fully revealed, George Bush will
go down as the most hated president in U.S. history. More than Nixon. Maybe
he’ll even get impeached. I sure hope so. It’s already started. His own party is
turning on him. This is a four-time loser businessman, a guy who got FIRED from
running a D.C. food catering business, who bought the presidency with his dad’s
connections and a winsome smile, and then decided to invade an oil-rich nation
and kill over 100,000 people. By skipping out of his obligations during Vietnam
GW Bush failed to learn the lessons of Vietnam, so now he has his own Vietnam.
DB: Good luck Rich, and thanks for your time.
RZ: God bless you Darren
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Exclusive Interview with the author Rich Zubaty
DB: You’ve been knocking around out here for a while Rich. It seems you were
years ahead of the curve in your observations on feminism. Indeed, after
spending several years studying the subject online your writings still seem
fresh and insightful. But a lot of people say you hate women.
RZ: I don’t hate tigers, and I don’t hate women. They’re both beautiful to
behold. But if I fail to appreciate they both have fangs and inscrutable natures
I could get clawed.
DB: Many people in the men's movement see feminism as a form of socialism -
left-wing, anti-capitalist ideas. Yet you see feminism and large corporations as
being in a symbiotic relationship.
RZ: In the UK and Europe feminism is socialistic. But it’s different in the USA.
Early on feminism formed an unholy alliance with big corporations. The original
funding sources for U.S. feminism were the Ford and Rockefeller Foundations.
Ford and Rockefeller don’t fund socialists.
But what really really bothers me is that no one, on the left or right, talks
about the unintended consequences of feminism. The unintended consequences of
feminism.
DB: Which are?
RZ:
1) Feminism was the biggest scab labor movement in history. Union
membership in the USA plummeted as millions of women joined the work force. A
guy with a wife and two kids to support lost his job to a woman who had only
herself and payments on a Volkswagen to cover. She could work for less, and she
certainly wasn’t going to jeopardize her new position in the company by joining
a union.
2) The so-called “information economy” was virtually invented for working
women. 40 years into feminism and less than one percent of bricklayers and
asphalt pourers are women. More than 50% of managers are women. We have lost any
reasonable idea of what productive work really is.
DB: How so?
RZ: A woman wakes up in the morning in a house built by men. She drives to work
in a car built by men on roads built by men. She enters an office building built
by men and flips on a light switch connected to an electrical grid built and
maintained by men. She washes her hands in a sink connected to a plumbing system
put there by men. She scratches her chin and looks around. Her eyes settle on a
folding table. Suddenly the janitor appears. She points her finger and says,
“Bob, would you please move that table over there.” Her work day has begun. And
so it goes. She thinks she’s at home. She really believes her job involves
nothing more than telling people what to do all day. Put the socks in the
hamper, walk the dog, don’t forget your gym shoes. That’s it. That’s work. If we
relied on the work accomplished by women we would be living in caves eating cold
seeds. They don’t get it.
And that brings me to my third point about the unintended consequences of
feminism.
DB: What’s that?
RZ: 3) Feminism was, from the beginning, a consumer movement. Their battle cry
was, “I want my own job so I can have my own money so I can buy my own stuff.”
It played right into the corporate agenda. Women want to buy things,
corporations want to sell them things. Women get “high” from shopping. Corporate
stocks get higher the more they can sell them.
And the sheer explosion of corporate fast food chains and automobiles and big
box stores - consumerism run rampant serving these women who “don’t cook” - is a
direct consequence of working women. Remember, “mater” the Latin word for
mother, is the root word of materialism. Women are more materialistic than men.
DB: Hah.
RZ: But it gets worse. In 40 years of feminism real wages have stayed flat, but
the prices of everything from bread to gas to housing have shot up from 300% to
500%. I used to pay 25 cents for a gallon of gas in the 60s and now it costs
over 2 bucks. Working women are a disaster. The work they do is scarcely needed
but now everything costs astronomically more. And, need I add, that the
“information economy” jobs that were supposed to take the place of all the U.S.
manufacturing jobs that were outsourced to Mexico and China, are now themselves
being outsourced to India. Women hopped on the corporate bandwagon without
questioning anything, without it ever occurring to them that workers have to
stick together to prevent being exploited, and now we are sliding off a cliff.
DB: One of your achievements, I believe, is in showing how men can have an
essential role and be proud of themselves outside of the corporate rat-race. In
fact, it seems you share with me the belief that there is something
fundamentally uncivilised about the typical office type job. When a man is
working at, for example, physical work – painting or fishing - or at least
working independently, his thoughts are his own, and he is not under the tyranny
of constantly having to 'express' himself. Would society be more civilised if
our culture expected women to bring in the regular household wage, while the man
pursued more speculative and traditionally masculine types of work?
RZ: Exactly. I wanna stay home! Or go fishing, or fix the roof. Let them work.
Let them do for us what we used to do for them. Go to work and pay the rent and
buy the food while I stay home and paint or write or make videos - and give the
kids cookies and milk when they get off the school bus. And be HAPPY about it
too. Be happy they have a job and CAN pay the rent. The worst thing about
working women is they think the money they earn is “their” money. A man used to
work 10 hours a day at a stink-ass job so he could make the money to pay for his
wife and kids and maybe get a 15 minute blowjob at night. Maybe. Women think the
money they make is all for themselves. Self-absorbed, know-nothing, ruthless
economic strivers. Darwinian capitalists, the worst kind.
DB: You describe yourself as neither a liberal or conservative, but a
'Populist'. Can you explain what a Populist is? A for “the people” kind of
thing?
RZ: That’s the current usage. But actually, we had a Populist movement in
America back in the late 1800s. The socially conservative Midwestern farmers
faced off against the predatory banks and railroads that were stealing their
lands. A Populist is a social conservative and an economic progressive. North
American liberals are social progressives and economic conservatives. The exact
opposite. Liberals think gay marriage and a soaring stock market are both great
things. Populists think intact families and Livings Wages are both great things.
Until the Democratic Party can look men in the eyes and say, “We hear your pain
and we are going to do something about it,” they don’t stand a chance of winning
an election. Democrats have abandoned working men in favor of blandishments
served up to minorities and gays and women. It won’t work. I believe that 80% of
the people in America are Populists - AND DON’T KNOW IT!
DB: How so?
RZ: Most of the people in this country think corporations have too much power.
Too much influence over government. I think that’s obvious. Look how we got
manipulated into the Iraq war so our corporations could grab their oil. And most
of the people in this country think the government should butt out of religious
issues like marriage and divorce and even abortion. Government has no business
messing with those. So most of us are Populists, but we have NO political party
to represent us. I’d love to start a Populist Party and see how much support we
would get.
DB: Why don’t you?
RZ: I’m working on it. I’m doing a presentation on the topic in a bookstore next
month…But the point is, I’m not a religious right winger who despises feminism
on principle. I’m an economic progressive who is furious at how, for 40 years,
elections in the USA have turned on social issues, moral issues - basically the
realm of religion - instead of truly important economic issues. In 2004 we had
an election that SHOULD have been about an insane war, job flight overseas, and
health care. Instead right-wingers got mobilized against gay marriage and
abortion, and tipped the election. It makes me puke. I DON’T CARE about abortion
and gay marriage, those are private moral/religious issues. I care about jobs
and war and health care. I’m not a conservative who opposes feminism for its
perceived socialist agenda. I am a Leftist who is furious with feminism because
for 40 years it has undermined progressive politics in the USA by shrilly
spewing its self-serving propaganda at an unconvinced voting public, who drift
further and further to the right to get away from them. This is the secret of
Republican success. Republicans have nothing definitive to offer American voters
apart from doing the bidding of corporations, and facing off against the
bogeywomen of the cultural Left. What a platform! Without the feminists to
oppose there’s nothing there.
DB: How did you come to write “What Men Know That Women Don’t”?
RZ: I had a really nasty divorce, lost my kids and five houses I built with my
own hands, and everything I had been working on for 15 years. Got crapped on by
the female-friendly court system. And then, about a year later, I asked myself a
simple question: What ARE the differences between men and women. What are they
REALLY? This was a University of Chicago type question.
DB: That’s where you went to school?
RZ: There and the Art Institute of Chicago. At the U of C were taught to ask one
question, and carry that out across several different academic disciplines.
“Interdisciplinary study” it was called. So I asked myself that question - what
are the real differences between men and women - and then studied biology,
psychology, sociology, history, law, mythology, and religion, trying to answer
it. And boy was I surprised.
DB: About what?
RZ: Everything really. I found out that just about everything we think is true
about men and women is completely wrong.
DB: Like what?
RZ: Like intuition. We like to think women are more intuitive than men, but
that’s completely bogus. Men are more intuitive - and creative, and spiritual.
DB: You make some interesting observations about women being linguistic and
materialistic, while men are more non-linguistic, and spiritual. From what I've
read of the latest theories on the cerebral hemispheres one might say that men
are more right brained, while women are more left brained.
Interestingly, the left hemisphere is not only more responsible for language,
but for all kinds of well-defined, structured knowledge, while the right brain
is primed for dealing with novel situations. It is also the hemisphere that
deals with the self in relation to what one might can spirituality.
Interestingly, modern art has been ruined by the postmodern critics who have
talked it, and intellectualized it to death…So, are you in a sense saying that
our society has become too "left-brained"?
RZ: Exactly. I’m glad you pounced on that. What I’m saying is we live in a
matriarchy, NOT a patriarchy. That female values and female left-brained
methodologies rule. Biological studies have shown that women are essentially
left-brained thinkers. And that’s not what we were led to believe. We were told
that women are spontaneous and men are “logical”. But that’s not accurate. It
obscures the fact that women are the more analytical, methodical thinkers.
Women are left-brained creatures. Literal, analytical, sequential,
connect-the-dots type of thinkers. Men are spontaneous, and abstract and
intuitive and creative - and forgiving - and much much less fearful.
DB: Less fearful? That fits…Another aspect of this materialistic society - it
seems to me - is the hoarding behavior we are displaying. It’s all about fear.
We try to fill ourselves with food, fill ourselves with more money, more
objects, cram more qualifications behind us "just in case we need them".
RZ: Right. What I really oppose is the Creeping Femaleness of our entire
civilization. Creeping Femaleness. The “news” formats, the advertisers, the
government programs, the politicians, the school programs are all modelled to
appeal to women. Why? Because women make 80% of buying decisions and their only
perceived job seems to be voicing opinions about things. No matter that those
opinions are not connected to any action. Men will take care of that. At times I
think that women instinctively believe the entire thrust of their lives is to
persuade men to do things for them…Meanwhile, groups of unemployed boys gather
on street corners and form gangs that vilify absolutely everything the
matriarchy offers up. Trying to recreate masculine culture in the midst of this
feminized mess.
DB: And the effete populations of the West become ever more over-qualified, fat,
and consumeristic. It's an emotional reaction against fear that we will not be
prepared for the future; that stops us living in the present. Which is what
Jesus was saying: fear not for the future. Several times in your book you
mention Jesus. What is your view/theory on him and his message?
RZ: Jesus was a good guy. I’m a Gospel Christian. I pray every day. For peace
and guidance. For one year I was a Benedictine monk, right after my divorce. In
fact, that’s when I did the research for the book, when I was living as a monk.
I’m a solid member of the Christian Left. Always have
been. Don’t support war or abortion. Like the Pope. I am NOT a right wing
Christian. They get their cues from the pre-Jesus, fire-and-brimstone Jewish
prophets, or the post-Jesus ravings of the disciples. I think they’re nuts. In
fact, I don’t even think they’re Christians. I think they’re wannabe Jews.
Dangerously delusional. Everything I need to know about Christianity is in the
Gospels - which are basically some conflicting stories about what Jesus is
alleged to have said and did. What Jesus said and did, I presume, is what
Christianity is supposed to be about. The Sermon on the Mount, Mathew 5,6,7 says
it all. And mostly Christianity is about living without fear. And without
hoarding and consumerism and all the fear-bred female impulses that plague us
today. I’ve studied in Buddhist wats in Thailand and Hindu ashrams in India too,
and the essential message is the same. Release your ego and live without fear.
Something men are good at, and women don’t seem to have a clue about. That’s why
I say men are naturally more spiritual than women.
DB: Fear leads to hoarding.
RZ: Right, hoarding and materialism and ultimately war. War is fought for more
material stuff and women are the ones who crave the material stuff.
DB: Are you gonna say what I think you’re gonna say?
RZ: Yes I am. Women are the cause of war. Hoarding and materialism are the
causes of war and women are the main perpetrators of hoarding and materialism.
Mix a teaspoon of fear into that mental soup and it’s time to gas up the Humvees
and arm the cruise missiles. America’s wars are fought to propel corporate
expansion overseas, and what are the corps after? Raw materials to make more
things for women to buy. More gas for their cars, more plastics for their homes,
more clothes, more shoes, more cosmetics. Feminism started out as a noble
attempt to uncouple women from their primary designation as consumers. But -
another unintended consequence - it just gave free rein to their cravings. It
just made everything worse. The insecurities and cravings of women are the root
cause of war. Women don’t like war, but they sure like owning their own cars and
houses and dishwashers. Their professed distaste for war is a mental disconnect.
A laudable opinion divorced from the consequences of their actions. They
actually believe that holding an opinion about something is the same as DOING
something about it. Cultural schizophrenia. Creeping Femaleness.
DB: Everything is backwards.
RZ: That’s what I’m telling you. By simply doing the research that no one else
had bothered to do, I concluded that almost everything we have been taught about
the genders is completely backwards. No wonder we’re so confused. Some guys have
told me that every man alive should read this book. The data I stumbled upon
turns everything we’ve been taught upside down, and thereby comes out making
almost perfect sense. Because, when you think about it, nothing we’ve been
taught about gender relations makes any sense at all. So when you turn it all
upside down there is a pretty good chance something is going to make sense. It’s
probably a mathematical thing I don’t understand.
DB: You’re a Luddite? You hate science?
RZ: Au contraire. I am a big fan of trying to understand particle physics. Do
you realize that if you take one particle and accelerate it to the speed of
light it exists in all times in all places? I can’t think of a better metaphor
for God. But I do think all the current emphasis on science and technology has
rotted our souls. There’s nothing I would rather do than cook a freshly caught
fish on an open fire. It keeps me in touch with the Source of things. Of course,
I am completely addicted to computers.
DB: To what extent do you think that men should relax, and 'go their own way',
or alternatively engage the matriarchy and actively fight it? In other words: is
living well the best revenge, or do we have a responsibility to work to change
society?
RZ: Part of my formula for “living well” is propagating truth. The thing to
remember is that confronting the matriarchy can be lots of fun. Ten years ago I
held “Take Back the Penis” rallies across the USA and Canada. We laughed till
our bellies hurt and got a lot of press for men’s issues. We handed out
cucumbers to giggling women. Japanese tourists took pictures of us. In
Cambridge, Massachusetts a hooker stood alongside us reading our literature
between romps with Harvard students who picked her up in their sports cars. And
in San Francisco the police assigned a special unit to protect us from “them” -
meaning the Lesbian Avengers. Lots of fun. Fathers4Justice have revved up that
Abbie Hoffman-style of circus-protest and they are having a huge impact on
father’s issues in the UK. Sitting at computers commiserating with like-minded
souls cannot compare with the sheer joy of taking this stuff to the streets.
That said, I have to mention an important thing. Instead of supporting the Penis
rallies most Fathers Groups denigrated us for being too radical. What they
refused to accept is that we are facing a Systemic Problem - the feminization of
our entire society. The Fathers think that by tweaking a law or two in Family
Court it’s all going to come out right. It never has. Because there is a huge
female boot print on the court system - and the schools and the media and the
politicians. By trying to play a cutesy political game, by saying, “We don’t
oppose feminism, we just want to see our kids”, they shot themselves in the
foot. It’s only by confronting the entire matriarchal edifice that something can
be shaken loose, and then, I believe, all the derivative issues will right
themselves quite quickly. Private Lyndie England and Condoleeza Rice have done
more for men’s issues than we ever could have achieved ourselves. No, women are
NOT morally superior to men. I get fan mail from female readers who are slogging
through my book when suddenly, inside their heads, the light goes on. All of a
sudden they get the WHOLE thing. They realize they were raised in a society that
taught them to mistrust and demonize men. They are stuck in a rotten marriage.
So they try, just for a few days, to defer to their husband, instead of
constantly bickering with him. They discuss family decisions together, but he
gets the final say. And HE thereby assumes full responsibility for his decision.
If something goes wrong it IS his fault. She’s FREE! Which is just what she
wants. The burden of worrying about everything is removed from her and suddenly,
magically, her marriage becomes delightful. Her husband thrives in the glow of
this newfound respect and he behaves more responsibly than she could ever have
forced him to behave in 20 years of criticism and abuse. It’s a wonderful thing.
Hearing those stories are the big payoff for my work.
DB: Do you think there is any hope for the nuclear family in the West?
RZ: Not until we subvert Creeping Femaleness and return to the simple Biblical
wisdom that, “As Christ is the head of the church so is the husband the head of
the family.” Most women today don’t get it. Even so-called Christians. I
actually tried to get married a few years ago by writing a
genuine “marriage contract”. Not a pie-in-the-sky marriage contract but a REAL
marriage contract. Family court ruled it wasn’t a marriage and civil court ruled
it wasn’t a contract. So much for them. Government has no business messing with
marriage. They’ve made that abundantly clear. Marriage and divorce have ALWAYS
been religious prerogatives. Even King Henry VIII had to start an entirely new
religion in order to get divorced, and he was the KING, he WAS the law. It’s
only very recently that government started messing up gender relations. All
based on the premise that “men are the oppressors of women”. If men are the
oppressors of women then women are vampires. What a First World mind-fuck that
bitter propaganda became. Like a nauseating sound loop, or a zombie that won’t
die. But the good news is: this is the Achilles heel of feminism. When you
confront a feminist with real fact after real fact she will back up and up and
up until she says, “Well everyone knows men are the oppressors of women.” And
when you then say, “That’s not true, men are the protectors and providers for
women and ALWAYS have been”, she will scream. And scream and scream. Their whole
edifice is built on this vile falsity.
Here are the real facts: 19 out of 20 people who die on the job are men, 4 out
of 5 suicides are men, 85% of the homeless are men, women live 7 years longer
than men, women own 65% of America’s wealth. And they want us to believe that
men are the oppressors of women? If women were the victims in any of these
categories we would have a federal task force investigating the outrage. Men are
the protectors and providers for women, and always have been. It’s written into
our biogrammar.
DB: What is your advice for young men today?
RZ: Don’t get married. But if you do, go into it knowing that one day you will
be divorced. Keep money aside. Nurture the best possible relationship with your
kids. Don’t assume they will always be in your life because one day they will be
gone in a poof, and you will still be paying for them. And don’t join the
military, not while GW Bush is president. And you should probably read “What Men
Know That Women Don’t”. I can’t summarize four years of research in this one
interview. It will save you 1000 times the cover cost in averted grief and
relationship disasters. If you’re broke, call your local library and ask them to
order a copy so other guys can read it too.
DB: What have you been up to lately?
RZ: I have a new video coming out on DVD called “Corporate Vampires”. It’s the
history of the corporate colonization of the USA and Europe as told by Uncle
Sam. “They bit me and I became one of them”. A campy/artsy/creepy grave-robbing
expedition in the cemetery where the dead souls of corporate capitalism are
buried. Just like my men’s research, the clues are sitting right there,
sparkling in the moonlight. But our academic gurus walk right past them in
service to their corporate paymasters. It shows things like Abraham Lincoln
warning us that, "As a result of the (Civil) War, corporations have been
enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow…until all wealth
is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed." Exactly what’s
happened. The corporations control everything! Democracy is dead. I’m convinced
the corporate agenda intends to reduce us to servile, feminized men.
Worker/consumers. They’ve certainly succeeded with the women. I’d like to get
the DVD distributed with Netflix, and in Europe, but I would REALLY like to get
some people interested in helping produce a full-on theatrical version. Some old
filmmaking friends in Paris have expressed an interest. Anyone who would like to
contact me about the DVD, or book, or anything else, can email me: richzubaty at
hotmail.com
Also, I’m cooking up a new lecture/presentation called “Why Populism? Why now?”
Maybe we’ll videotape it. It’s pretty simple, I’m just going to tell people that
they’re already Populists and don’t know it. Social conservatives, economic
reformers.
I spent the last two summers in Europe advocating against the Iraq War. Shot a
video of the protests at the Republican Convention in New York last fall. I
basically walked around asking dozens of people if they thought George Bush was
any better of a Christian than they were - and got a resounding “NO!” for an
answer. How can you lie and murder and claim to be a Christian?
DB: Predictions for the future?
RZ: For men it’s going to get worse before it gets better. Until we get some
Fathers4Justice-style civil disobedience protests going on this side of the
Atlantic we will see no change. That said, my book advocates that each man gain
“immunity” from the system. Immunity from the corporate fiefdom and the de facto
matriarchy that supports it. There is no one-size-fits-all solution, but
equipped with an understanding of what men are really like, what our strengths
REALLY are, we can deploy the spiritual tools to gain this immunity. It CAN
work. Remember: a man needs a woman like a fish needs s bicycle. Yeah, the sex
is great. But it’s not worth the price of admission.
Also, when the lies that sped us into war are fully revealed, George Bush will
go down as the most hated president in U.S. history. More than Nixon. Maybe
he’ll even get impeached. I sure hope so. It’s already started. His own party is
turning on him. This is a four-time loser businessman, a guy who got FIRED from
running a D.C. food catering business, who bought the presidency with his dad’s
connections and a winsome smile, and then decided to invade an oil-rich nation
and kill over 100,000 people. By skipping out of his obligations during Vietnam
GW Bush failed to learn the lessons of Vietnam, so now he has his own Vietnam.
DB: Good luck Rich, and thanks for your time.
RZ: God bless you Darren
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